patience

Aug. 11th, 2003 08:35 pm
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Ecclesiastes 3

1 TO every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
2 A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
3 A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
4 A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
5 A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
6 A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
7 A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
8 A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.


And I am not patient.

Date: 2003-08-11 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ilmarinen.livejournal.com
What are you not patient about this time?

Eh, patience is good--but is different from complacency. I think one should work for progress in one's life and the larger world. And often, that takes far more patience than the alternative.

IMHO
-B.

Date: 2003-08-11 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-digitalis869.livejournal.com
Well put.

Good luck with the patience, plant. I have trouble with that too.

Date: 2003-08-12 04:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zanfur.livejournal.com
That is one of my two favorite verses in the bible. The other is 1 John 4, verse 8:
 7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and
   everyone who loves is born of God and knows God.
 8 The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love. 
 9 By this the love of God was manifested in us, that God has
   sent His only begotten Son into the world so that we might
   live through Him. 
10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us
   and sent His Son {to be} the propitiation for our sins. 
11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.
But if I had to choose one, I'd choose the one you posted.

Date: 2003-08-12 09:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plantae.livejournal.com
Not patient about most of them, actually. :/

And you are right. But I want them *now*! :)

Date: 2003-08-12 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adularia.livejournal.com
Malachi 2:10.

Date: 2003-08-12 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plantae.livejournal.com
Um, what relevance does this have to my post, aside from also containing a reference to the same compilation of religious texts?

Date: 2003-09-11 08:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pathdancer.livejournal.com
Are you serious?
You tat lace and grow orchids. That's not patient? Good heavens, it takes patience just to grow mold, much less anything as lovely as an orchid!

If I may quote from Princess Bride: I do not think that word means what you think it means!

Date: 2003-10-21 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plantae.livejournal.com
I've been thinking about this. I think a lot of it is that there are different kinds of patience. One can learn, for instance, to be patient with other living things, through love or resignation, for they will go at their own speed and perform at their own level. :) And one can learn to be patient with tedious tasks, watching a gradual accumulation of progress and knowing that one is slowly approaching some goal. But things that are not entirely in one's control, yet which one has some feeling of responsibility for, are different from the types of patience I have. There are things I want *now*, despite the fact that I have no way to get them, and may not, in fact, be ready for them. And there are things I cannot change, and will never be able to change (unless someone grants me those five minutes of omnipotence :), but which must be changed. And to a certain extent, that lack of patience or discontent with the current conditions is a positive motivation, and to a certain extent it is a source of frustration bordering on despair. Both are difficult to deal with.
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